This product is for Japanese specifications (AC100V 50/60HZ).If you are in 120V-240V region, please use a down transformer.*For North America (110-120V), we can also provide a step-down transformer made in Japan separately, so please feel free to contact us. Compatible discs: SACD, CDDigital input: USB x 1, COAX x 1, OPT x 2Digital output: COAX x 1, OPT x 1Compatible sampling frequencies: USB input (PCM) 44.1k, 48k, 88.2k, 96k, 176.4k, 192k, 352.8k, 384k, 705.6k, 768kHz (16, 24, 32bit) / USB input (DSD) 2.8M, 5.6M, 11.2, 22.4MHz (1bit) / USB input (MQA) 44.1k, 48kHz (24bit), (MQA renderer mode) 88.2k, 96kHz (24bit) / COAX, OPT input 44.1k, 48k, 88.2k, 96k, 176.4k, 192kHz (16, 20, 24 bit)Analog output: 1 unbalanced, 1 balancedAnalog output voltage/impedance: 2.4 V/300? (unbalanced), 600? (balanced)Frequency response: CD 5Hz-20kHz (+0, -1.0dB), SACD 5Hz-50kHz (+0, -3.0dB), USB 2Hz-50kHz (+0, -3.0dB)Total harmonic distortion: CD 0.0015%, SACD 0.0011%, USB 0.0009%S/N ratio (IHF-A): CD 123dB, SACD 106dB, USB 123dBPower consumption: 40W, 1W (standby)Accessories: remote control, power cableDimensions (width): 440 mm (height): 154 mm (depth): 418 mmWeight: 22.4 kg It works properly and is ready to use.Please check the product condition and accessories in the pictures.Please note that this is an aged product and there are small scratches and other signs of use.The accessories are all shown in the picture.Please note that this item is also sold in stores in Japan, so it may be sold out. We accept PayPal, Visa, MasterCard, American Express and Discover. Items will be shipped via FedEx or EMS.Since it has a tracking number, please bid with confidence.Shipping is available from Monday to Friday.We do not ship on Saturdays, Sundays, or Japanese holidays as the courier is closed on those days.Shipping to PO BOX is not accepted. Import duties, taxes and charges are not included in the item price or shipping charges.These charges are the buyer’s responsibility.Please check with your country’s customs office to determine what these additional costs will be prior to bidding/buying.These charges are normally collected by the delivering freight (shipping) company or when you pick the item up -do not confuse them for additional shipping charges.We do not mark merchandise values below value or mark items as “gifts” -US and International government regulations prohibit such behavior. Thank you for visiting our store!We have been selling online in Japan for over 15 years, so there is no need to worry about transactions. We will send high quality products all over the world.If you have a product you want to find in Japan, please feel free to contact us.We also have various other items for sale.Please take a look at the list of items for sale.Thank you.

Description release date 1972. LUXMAN / power amplifier (tube type) / A2500. A tube power amplifier kit that is an improved version of the KMQ8. Output: 10W+10W (4?, 8?, 16?). Frequency characteristics: 20Hz to 20kHz -1dB. Maintained by our designated contractor. Please contact us whenever you have questions. customer feedback ?Ive started to order the items from Japan in other online shops a year ago and never had the problems with quality and delivery to Moscow by EMS from Japanese side, everything was perfect and fast. ?Carefully packaged! Great product in mint condition! A+ seller! ????????????? ?Ill buy from this seller again. Looking first in his shop. Great service. ?Wonderful! Item exactly as described!! Top-rate seller! ?Very happy with this seller, well packed, doll is lovely thanks very much.. About us A specialty shop offering a wide variety of carefully selected Japanese brand items. Unless marked used all of our inventory is brand new, so you can feel confident about your purchase. Even if you think to yourself, But the item I want is only available in Japan., make sure to consult with us before giving up hope. We will look for and suggest the best products on your behalf. Besides I also have a lot of works. Please inquire any time. International Buyers - Please Note: Import duties, taxes, and charges are not included in the item price or shipping cost. These charges are the buyers responsibility. Please check with your countrys customs office to determine what these additional costs will be prior to bidding or buying.

Description As an economical type of SQ505X, this integrated amplifier incorporates a design that emphasizes practicality and eliminates waste. Output: 20W+20W. Impedance: 45K?. Input sensitivity: 430MV. Frequency characteristics: 10HZ ~ 80KHZ. Please contact us whenever you have questions. customer feedback ?Ive started to order the items from Japan in other online shops a year ago and never had the problems with quality and delivery to Moscow by EMS from Japanese side, everything was perfect and fast. ?Carefully packaged! Great product in mint condition! A+ seller! ????????????? ?Ill buy from this seller again. Looking first in his shop. Great service. ?Wonderful! Item exactly as described!! Top-rate seller! ?Very happy with this seller, well packed, doll is lovely thanks very much.. About us A specialty shop offering a wide variety of carefully selected Japanese brand items. Unless marked used all of our inventory is brand new, so you can feel confident about your purchase. Even if you think to yourself, But the item I want is only available in Japan., make sure to consult with us before giving up hope. We will look for and suggest the best products on your behalf. Besides I also have a lot of works. Please inquire any time. International Buyers - Please Note: Import duties, taxes, and charges are not included in the item price or shipping cost. These charges are the buyers responsibility. Please check with your countrys customs office to determine what these additional costs will be prior to bidding or buying.

Description Release date: 1975. Output: 55W x 2 (8?) PHONO MM compatible Pure complementary OCL system with direct connection at all stages. Glossy and moist rack tone. The straightforward sound makes it easy to match with various genres. All contacts have been maintained. Measurement results are good. Please contact us whenever you have questions. customer feedback ?Ive started to order the items from Japan in other online shops a year ago and never had the problems with quality and delivery to Moscow by EMS from Japanese side, everything was perfect and fast. ?Carefully packaged! Great product in mint condition! A+ seller! ????????????? ?Ill buy from this seller again. Looking first in his shop. Great service. ?Wonderful! Item exactly as described!! Top-rate seller! ?Very happy with this seller, well packed, doll is lovely thanks very much.. About us A specialty shop offering a wide variety of carefully selected Japanese brand items. Unless marked used all of our inventory is brand new, so you can feel confident about your purchase. Even if you think to yourself, But the item I want is only available in Japan., make sure to consult with us before giving up hope. We will look for and suggest the best products on your behalf. Besides I also have a lot of works. Please inquire any time. International Buyers - Please Note: Import duties, taxes, and charges are not included in the item price or shipping cost. These charges are the buyers responsibility. Please check with your countrys customs office to determine what these additional costs will be prior to bidding or buying.

Product Details Brand: LUXMAN Model: N/A MPN: L-504 Serial Number: 11108561 Size (L×H×D): 16 x45 x27 cm Weight: 10,000 g Bundle Item: N/A Country of Manufacture: Japan Remarks: WE CANNOT SELL A PART, YOU NEED TO BUY ENTIRE THING. Condition Functionality: Does not work Appearance: Scratches, Stain, Dent Condition Rank Brand New Brand new, never been used Mint Pre-owned, like new Near Mint Pre-owned, almost no signs of use Excellent Pre-owned, minimal signs of use Very Good Very good condition, with some signs of use Good Works okay, with some signs of use Normal Works okay, with heavy signs of use For Parts It does not work normally Shipping Shipping Carrier: DHL(From Japan) Expedited Shipping (Outside US) We usully ship within 3 business days of reciving cleared payment.(Japan Time) Buyers Responsibility **International Buyers Please Read Carefully:** Import duties, taxes and charges are not included in the item price or shipping charges. These charges are the buyers responsibility. Please check with your countrys customs office to determine what these additional costs will be prior to bidding/buying. About Us: We are mojax inc. We sell reuse items such as luxury brand items, electronics products, and toys. We rediscover the value in reuse items and share it with the world. We belong to The Association Against Counterfeit Product Distribution which aims to prevent and eliminate the distribution of counterfeit and illegal products. We strive to sell only genuine products to our customers.

Check out other items on our store Kodawarimax_Golf & Kodawarimax_Hobbies Kindly verify item availability prior to completing your purchase. While we diligently update our inventory on a daily basis, certain products may be sold through local channels within the interim 24-hour period. Always let us know the item what you are looking for. we will do our best to find it for you!SHIPPING & RETURN POLICY Fedex or DHL with a tracking number. *When we use Japan Post, we will tell you before handThere is NO Shipping on Weekends and HolidaysWe always send the item to the address your registered on Ebay to ensure the security of the item. If you have changed your address, we will not be responsible for lost packageINTERNATIONAL BUYERS _ PLEASE NOTE:Import duties, taxes, and charges are not included in the item price or shipping cost. These charges are the buyers responsibility. Please check with your countrys customs office to determine what these additional costs will be prior to bidding or buying. We NEVER mark merchandise value below the selling value or mark items as GiftsInternational government regulations prohibit such behaviorr

DescriptionUsed ConditionPlease check the status description. PolicyPaymentPlease pay within 5 days after auction is finished.About UsAll of our goods are genuine articles. Moreover, we sell honestly. Please contact me, if you have your question.International Buyers - Please Note:Import duties, taxes and charges are not included in the item price or shipping charges. These charges are the buyers responsibility. Please check with your countrys customs office to determine what these additional costs will be prior to bidding/buying. These charges are normally collected by the delivering freight (shipping) company or when you pick the item up - do not confuse them for additional shipping charges.

DescriptionUsed ConditionPlease check the status description. PolicyPaymentPlease pay within 5 days after auction is finished.About UsAll of our goods are genuine articles. Moreover, we sell honestly. Please contact me, if you have your question.International Buyers - Please Note:Import duties, taxes and charges are not included in the item price or shipping charges. These charges are the buyers responsibility. Please check with your countrys customs office to determine what these additional costs will be prior to bidding/buying. These charges are normally collected by the delivering freight (shipping) company or when you pick the item up - do not confuse them for additional shipping charges.

DescriptionUsed ConditionPlease check the status description. PolicyPaymentPlease pay within 5 days after auction is finished.About UsAll of our goods are genuine articles. Moreover, we sell honestly. Please contact me, if you have your question.International Buyers - Please Note:Import duties, taxes and charges are not included in the item price or shipping charges. These charges are the buyers responsibility. Please check with your countrys customs office to determine what these additional costs will be prior to bidding/buying. These charges are normally collected by the delivering freight (shipping) company or when you pick the item up - do not confuse them for additional shipping charges.

Description Release date: 1973. This is a rare item with few scratches overall. Box and instruction manual are also included. Please contact us whenever you have questions. customer feedback ?Ive started to order the items from Japan in other online shops a year ago and never had the problems with quality and delivery to Moscow by EMS from Japanese side, everything was perfect and fast. ?Carefully packaged! Great product in mint condition! A+ seller! ????????????? ?Ill buy from this seller again. Looking first in his shop. Great service. ?Wonderful! Item exactly as described!! Top-rate seller! ?Very happy with this seller, well packed, doll is lovely thanks very much.. About us A specialty shop offering a wide variety of carefully selected Japanese brand items. Unless marked used all of our inventory is brand new, so you can feel confident about your purchase. Even if you think to yourself, But the item I want is only available in Japan., make sure to consult with us before giving up hope. We will look for and suggest the best products on your behalf. Besides I also have a lot of works. Please inquire any time. International Buyers - Please Note: Import duties, taxes, and charges are not included in the item price or shipping cost. These charges are the buyers responsibility. Please check with your countrys customs office to determine what these additional costs will be prior to bidding or buying.

DescriptionUsed ConditionPlease check the status description. PolicyPaymentPlease pay within 5 days after auction is finished.About UsAll of our goods are genuine articles. Moreover, we sell honestly. Please contact me, if you have your question.International Buyers - Please Note:Import duties, taxes and charges are not included in the item price or shipping charges. These charges are the buyers responsibility. Please check with your countrys customs office to determine what these additional costs will be prior to bidding/buying. These charges are normally collected by the delivering freight (shipping) company or when you pick the item up - do not confuse them for additional shipping charges.

Luxman Kmq60 Power Amplifier Tube AC100V A separate bonnet is included?Used DescriptionLUXMAN KMQ60 Vacuum Tube Power Amplifier KMQ-60 Luxman working item with copy of circuit diagram and instruction manual.Currently it is working normally and makes a good sound. I will package it firmly, but since it is an old item, there may be problems during shipping, so please do not accept any complaints or returns.ShippingCarefully pack it to prevent it from breaking. Ships within 7-14 business days from purchase. The delivery company basically uses FedEx or EMS.International Buyers - Please Note:Import duties, taxes, and charges are not included in the item price or shipping cost. These charges are the buyers responsibility. Please check with your countrys customs office to determine what these additional costs will be prior to bidding or buying. Thank you for your understanding.

Luxman Kmq60 Power Amplifier Tube AC100V A separate bonnet is included?Japan DescriptionLUXMAN LUXKIT KMQ60 As a simple test, we have confirmed that the sound can be heard by connecting a speaker.Please be aware that this item is old and may break suddenly.ShippingCarefully pack it to prevent it from breaking. Ships within 7-14 business days from purchase. The delivery company basically uses FedEx or EMS.International Buyers - Please Note:Import duties, taxes, and charges are not included in the item price or shipping cost. These charges are the buyers responsibility. Please check with your countrys customs office to determine what these additional costs will be prior to bidding or buying. Thank you for your understanding.

This product is for Japanese specifications (AC100V 50/60HZ).If you are in 120V-240V region, please use a down transformer. SpecificationsRated output: 30W + 30W (8?)?60W + 60W (4?)Frequency characteristics PHONO: 20Hz to 20kHz (within ±0.5dB)LINE: 20Hz to 100kHz (within -3.0dB)S/N ratio (IHF-A)PHONO (MM): 91dB or morePHONO (MC): 75dB or moreLINE: 105dB or more?Volume control: New LECUA1000?Amplification circuit: ODNF-u?Output configuration: Bipolar, 3-parallel push-pull?Damping factor: 370?Tone controlMaximum change amount BASS: ±8dB at 100HzTREBLE: ±8dB at 10kHz?Power supply voltage: AC100V (50 / 60Hz)?Power consumption:310W (Based on Electrical Appliance and Material Safety Law)230W (no signal)0.4W (standby)?External dimensions: 454 (width) x 186 (height) x 462 (depth) mmDepth includes 19mm front knob and 36mm rear terminal?Weight: 27.7kg (main unit), 34.7kg (standard packaging) It works properly and is ready to use.Please check the product condition and accessories in the pictures.Please note that this is an aged product and there are small scratches and other signs of use.The accessories are all shown in the picture.Please note that this item is also sold in stores in Japan, so it may be sold out. We accept PayPal, Visa, MasterCard, American Express and Discover. Items will be shipped via FedEx or EMS.Since it has a tracking number, please bid with confidence.Shipping is available from Monday to Friday.We do not ship on Saturdays, Sundays, or Japanese holidays as the courier is closed on those days.Shipping to PO BOX is not accepted. Import duties, taxes and charges are not included in the item price or shipping charges.These charges are the buyer’s responsibility.Please check with your country’s customs office to determine what these additional costs will be prior to bidding/buying.These charges are normally collected by the delivering freight (shipping) company or when you pick the item up -do not confuse them for additional shipping charges.We do not mark merchandise values below value or mark items as “gifts” -US and International government regulations prohibit such behavior. Thank you for visiting our store!We have been selling online in Japan for over 15 years, so there is no need to worry about transactions. We will send high quality products all over the world.If you have a product you want to find in Japan, please feel free to contact us.We also have various other items for sale.Please take a look at the list of items for sale.Thank you.

DescriptionInstruction manual included. I think it is in relatively clean condition for an old one.ShippingWe always send the item with a tracking number. So please place an order without any concern on delivery. You can always track the delivery status.Shipping is only available to the address registered in eBay. If you want us to send another address, please change your address on eBay and then place an order.Shipping is available from Monday to Friday. Weekends are not available because freight (shipping) companies are closed.We do not mark merchandise values below value or mark items as “gifts” – Japan, US and International government regulations prohibit such behavior.If your address is in the remote areas defined by the freight (shipping) company, please pay the additional shipping fees with PayPal.About Importers ObligationImport duties, taxes, and charges are not included in the item price or shipping cost. These charges are the buyers responsibility. Please check with your countrys customs office to determine what these additional costs will be prior to bidding or buying. Thank you for your understanding.

Condition DescriptionWorking test compleated.Good condition. About Us Thank you for visiting our page. We are Japanese seller and deal in 100% authentic products. We will send a package from Japan. For safety transaction, we attach tracking number, so please check the items with no worries. Please refer to the images and the Specification section for product details! If you have any question, fell free to message us! Policy PaymentYou can use various payment methods based on eBay Managed Payments. Import duties, taxes and charges are not included in the item price or shipping charges. These charges are the buyers responsibility.Cancellations & ReturnsCancellation or returns will be accepted only if the item has an obvious problem that was not mentioned in the listing description. If that, please let us know within 3 days you got the item. Buyer is responsible for shipping costs and any charge incurred shipping products back.International BuyersImport duties, taxes and charges are not included in the item price or shipping charges. These charges are the buyers responsibility. Please check with your countrys customs office to determine what these additional costs will be prior to bidding/buying. These charges are normally collected by the delivering freight (shipping) company or when you pick the item up - do not confuse them for additional shipping charges.Shipping1. We always send the item with a tracking number. So please place an order without any concern on delivery. You can always track the delivery status. 2. Shipping is only available to the address registered in eBay. If you want us to send another address, please change your address on eBay and then place an order. 3. Shipping is available from Monday to Friday. Weekends are not available because freight (shipping) companies are closed. 4. We do not mark merchandise values below value or mark items as “gifts” – Japan, US and International government regulations prohibit such behavior.

Description Release date: 1983. There are scratches and dirt. Accessories: Presentation box and instruction manual. PHONO MM compatible. Vacuum tubes used: 12AX7x4 12AU7x6 12BH7Ax1. Limited production of 200 units. Comes with a 2010 LUXMAN maintenance sticker. The contents are unknown, but the interior is also very clean. Major improvements based on the CL36. It has a fresh, clear, beautiful tone. Please contact us whenever you have questions. customer feedback ?Ive started to order the items from Japan in other online shops a year ago and never had the problems with quality and delivery to Moscow by EMS from Japanese side, everything was perfect and fast. ?Carefully packaged! Great product in mint condition! A+ seller! ????????????? ?Ill buy from this seller again. Looking first in his shop. Great service. ?Wonderful! Item exactly as described!! Top-rate seller! ?Very happy with this seller, well packed, doll is lovely thanks very much.. About us A specialty shop offering a wide variety of carefully selected Japanese brand items. Unless marked used all of our inventory is brand new, so you can feel confident about your purchase. Even if you think to yourself, But the item I want is only available in Japan., make sure to consult with us before giving up hope. We will look for and suggest the best products on your behalf. Besides I also have a lot of works. Please inquire any time. International Buyers - Please Note: Import duties, taxes, and charges are not included in the item price or shipping cost. These charges are the buyers responsibility. Please check with your countrys customs office to determine what these additional costs will be prior to bidding or buying.

DescriptionAll my products are 100% Authentic. Please feel free to contact us if you have any question. Payment We usually ship within 10 business days of receiving cleared payment. Shipping We ship using FedEx, DHL and Japan Post.Remote area fee may be charged separately.International Buyers - Please Note: We will always send the package with a tracking number. So, please place your order with no worries about delivery. You can track the delivery status at any time. We only ship to addresses registered with eBay. If you wish to ship to another address, please change your address on eBay before placing your order. Shipping is available Monday through Friday. Weekends are not available as freight (shipping) companies are closed. We do not list item values below value or label items as gift items. Japanese, U.S., and international government regulations prohibit such practices.

DescriptionAll my products are 100% Authentic.Please feel free to contact us if you have any question.ShippingWe ship using FedEx, DHL and Japan Post.International Buyers - Please Note:Import duties, taxes, and charges are not included in the item price or shipping cost. These charges are the buyers responsibility. Please check with your countrys customs office to determine what these additional costs will be prior to bidding or buying.If there is a remote charge for your address, we will charge you for additional shipping.Thank you for your understanding.

LUXMAN PD-151 MARK II Record Player belt drive analog player AC100V From JapanDescription?Drive system: Belt drive system?Motor: PID control DC brushless motor with rotation speed adjustment function?Turntable: 30cm diameter machined aluminum, surface finish: diamond cut, weight: 4.0kg?Rotation speed: 33 1/3 rpm, 45 rpm, 78 rpm (3 speed switching)?Wow flutter: 0.04% or less (W.R.M.S)? Tone arm?Type/bearing: Universal type static balance S-shaped/knife edge?Effective length/overhang: 222.5mm/18mm, tracking error: ±3° or less?Applicable cartridge weight: 4-10g (17-23g including attached headshell)?Height adjustment range: 15mm?Body?Auxiliary equipmentFront panel: Power switch, motor ON/OFF switch, rotation speed selector switch, rotation speed confirmation indicator, rotation speed adjustment volume (33 1/3 rpm, 45 rpm, 78 rpm)Rear panel part: AC inletBottom part: insulator, cartridge output terminal (DIN type)?Power consumption: 5W (Electrical Appliance and Material Safety Law)?External dimensions/mass: 465 (W) x 132.5 (to top of turntable) (H) x 393 (D) mm/15.8kg?Accessories: Turntable, power cable (JPA-10000i: with polarity mark), headshell, rubber belt, EP adapter, turntable sheet, turntable mounting handle, phono cable, counterweight, hexagonal wrench for adjusting arm, screwdriver for adjusting RPMThis product does not include a dust cover or cartridge.?Options sold separately: Dust cover OPPD-DSC151, heavy weight, head shell, replacement rubber beltShippingWe will ship the item by FedEx, DHL, UPS, Japan Post (EMS/Airmail) and provide the tracking number. Shipping is only available to the address registered.Please note that any address not registered is not acceptable to ship. Shipping is possible from Monday to Friday.Saturdays, Sundays, and Japanese holidays are not available because the transportation company is closed.International Buyers - Please Note:Import duties, taxes, and charges are not included in the item price or shipping cost. These charges are the buyers responsibility. Please check with your countrys customs office to determine what these additional costs will be prior to bidding or buying.Thank you for your understanding.

Description release date 1994. A stereo power amplifier incorporating circuit technologies such as a CSSC circuit and an OD? circuit. Continuous effective output: 200W+200W (8?, 20HZ to 20KHZ. Input sensitivity: 1V (200W, 8?). S/N ratio: 120dB (IHF-A). Power consumption: 816W. Weight: 42kg. Please contact us whenever you have questions. customer feedback ?Ive started to order the items from Japan in other online shops a year ago and never had the problems with quality and delivery to Moscow by EMS from Japanese side, everything was perfect and fast. ?Carefully packaged! Great product in mint condition! A+ seller! ????????????? ?Ill buy from this seller again. Looking first in his shop. Great service. ?Wonderful! Item exactly as described!! Top-rate seller! ?Very happy with this seller, well packed, doll is lovely thanks very much.. About us A specialty shop offering a wide variety of carefully selected Japanese brand items. Unless marked used all of our inventory is brand new, so you can feel confident about your purchase. Even if you think to yourself, But the item I want is only available in Japan., make sure to consult with us before giving up hope. We will look for and suggest the best products on your behalf. Besides I also have a lot of works. Please inquire any time. International Buyers - Please Note: Import duties, taxes, and charges are not included in the item price or shipping cost. These charges are the buyers responsibility. Please check with your countrys customs office to determine what these additional costs will be prior to bidding or buying.

LUXMAN L-309 Integrated Amplifier AC100V Working ConfirmedDescriptionPlease check the picture.Condition with signs of use and many scratches and stains Shipping Fedex or DHL.International Buyers - Please Note:Import duties, taxes, and charges are not included in the item price or shipping cost. These charges are the buyers responsibility. Please check with your countrys customs office to determine what these additional costs will be prior to bidding or buying. Thank you for your understanding.

Description release date 1978. Detailed specifications are posted in the photo, so please check there. Please contact us whenever you have questions. customer feedback ?Ive started to order the items from Japan in other online shops a year ago and never had the problems with quality and delivery to Moscow by EMS from Japanese side, everything was perfect and fast. ?Carefully packaged! Great product in mint condition! A+ seller! ????????????? ?Ill buy from this seller again. Looking first in his shop. Great service. ?Wonderful! Item exactly as described!! Top-rate seller! ?Very happy with this seller, well packed, doll is lovely thanks very much.. About us A specialty shop offering a wide variety of carefully selected Japanese brand items. Unless marked used all of our inventory is brand new, so you can feel confident about your purchase. Even if you think to yourself, But the item I want is only available in Japan., make sure to consult with us before giving up hope. We will look for and suggest the best products on your behalf. Besides I also have a lot of works. Please inquire any time. International Buyers - Please Note: Import duties, taxes, and charges are not included in the item price or shipping cost. These charges are the buyers responsibility. Please check with your countrys customs office to determine what these additional costs will be prior to bidding or buying.